4 RV Dealer Lies That Can Cost Buyers Thousands

Buying an RV should be an exciting experience. But all too often buyers have to deal with RV dealer lies.

And unfortunately, it can become an expensive mistake if you rely too heavily on everything an RV salesperson tells you.

I’m Duane, a certified RV inspector, and one thing that has always concerned me is how much trust many buyers place in an RV salesperson. They assume that the person helping them knows RVs, understands towing, and has their best interests in mind.

However, that is not always the case.

Some RV salespeople are knowledgeable, experienced, and honest. But others are primarily focused on making the sale and earning their commission.

That means they may tell you what you want to hear, even when the information is incomplete, misleading, or simply untrue.

So let’s examine four common RV dealer lies and deceptions that can cost buyers thousands of dollars. More importantly, I’ll explain how you can protect yourself from each one.

RV dealer lies that can cost you money

Why RV Buyers Should Be Careful at the Dealership

An RV is a complicated purchase because you are buying much more than a vehicle or trailer.

You are also buying plumbing, electrical, heating, cooling, propane, wastewater, and appliance systems. In the case of a towable RV, you must also determine whether your vehicle can handle the trailer safely.

And many RVs cost as much as a house once did.

Despite that, some buyers do less research before purchasing an RV than they would before buying a new television. They visit a dealership, find an RV that looks attractive, and allow the salesperson to guide most of the decision.

But the salesperson works for the dealership, not for you.

Their job is to sell RVs, arrange financing, and help the dealership earn a profit. That does not automatically make them dishonest, but it does mean that you must verify the information they give you.

The more you know before arriving at the dealership, the less likely you are to fall for these common RV salesman lies.

RV Dealer Lies #1: “Your Vehicle Can Definitely Tow This RV”

This is one of the most common and potentially dangerous statements made to RV buyers.

You show the salesperson your truck, SUV, or other tow vehicle, and they assure you that it can easily pull the RV you want. Sometimes they may reach that conclusion after asking only what make and model you own.

However, matching a tow vehicle to a trailer is not that simple.

Towing Capacity Is Only One Part of the Calculation

A vehicle’s advertised maximum towing capacity is important, but it is not the only number that matters.

You also need to consider:

  • The vehicle’s payload capacity
  • The trailer’s loaded weight
  • Tongue weight or pin weight
  • The weight of passengers
  • Cargo carried in the tow vehicle
  • Accessories added to the vehicle
  • The vehicle’s gross combined weight rating
  • The ratings of the hitch, tires, and axles

Two trucks that look almost identical can have very different towing and payload capacities. Engine size, drivetrain, axle ratio, cab configuration, bed length, and installed equipment can all affect the ratings.

So a salesperson usually cannot determine whether your vehicle is suitable simply by looking at it in the parking lot.

Dry Weight Can Be Misleading

Another common RV dealer trick is focusing only on the trailer’s unloaded or “dry” weight.

The dry weight normally does not include all the camping gear, food, water, propane, batteries, and other items you will add. Therefore, the RV can weigh substantially more when you are ready to travel.

And that added weight can also increase the amount of tongue or pin weight placed on your tow vehicle.

This is why buying based solely on dry weight can leave you with a trailer that is too heavy for your vehicle. In fact, it is one of the biggest travel trailer buying mistakes that buyers make.

What Happens If You Buy Too Much RV?

Some buyers do not discover the mismatch until after they have signed the paperwork and taken the RV home.

Then they are left with two unpleasant choices.

They can sell or trade the RV, which may produce an immediate financial loss. Or they can replace their tow vehicle with a more capable one, which could cost tens of thousands of dollars.

Neither choice is good.

So research RV towing capacity before you visit the dealership. Find the specific ratings for your vehicle and calculate how passengers, cargo, tongue weight, and other loads affect its capacity.

Do not allow a salesperson’s verbal assurance to replace the actual numbers.

RV Dealer Lies #2: “We Can Give You the Best Financing Available”

The dealership may tell you that its finance department can offer a lower interest rate than anyone else.

Is this just one of the RV dealer lies they tell?

Well, actually that could be true. However, you should never automatically assume that dealer-arranged RV financing is your least expensive option.

The finance office can be one of the dealership’s biggest profit centers. In addition to arranging the loan, it may sell extended service contracts, protection packages, insurance products, and other add-ons.

Why the Monthly Payment Can Be Misleading

Some buyers focus mainly on whether the monthly payment fits their budget.

However, the dealership can lower that payment by extending the length of the loan. A longer loan term may make an expensive RV appear affordable, but it can also greatly increase the amount of interest you pay.

Even worse, you may owe more on the RV than it is worth for many years.

This is especially important because RVs generally depreciate quickly. If you decide to sell or trade the RV while you are upside down on the loan, you may have to bring a substantial amount of money to the transaction.

Therefore, do not evaluate an RV loan by monthly payment alone.

Look carefully at:

  • The interest rate
  • The length of the loan
  • The total amount financed
  • The total interest paid
  • Loan fees
  • Prepayment penalties, if any
  • Optional products added to the contract

Arrange Financing Before Visiting the Dealership

One of the best ways to protect yourself is to speak with your bank or credit union before shopping for an RV.

If you have good credit and an established relationship with a financial institution, you may be able to obtain an attractive rate on your own. You will also have a financing offer you can use for comparison.

Then, if the dealership truly offers better terms, you can choose its financing. But if it does not, you already have another option available.

Arranging financing in advance also helps you establish a realistic budget. That makes it easier to resist the temptation to buy more RV than you can comfortably afford.

RV Dealer Lies #3: “This Older New RV Is an Incredible Deal”

You may visit a dealership to look at the current model-year RVs, only to have a salesperson direct you toward an older unit.

They may tell you that the older RV is essentially the same and that buying it will save you a large amount of money.

And sometimes it really can be a good deal.

However, you need to understand why the dealership is eager to sell it.

Why Dealers Want to Move Older Inventory

An RV that has remained on the lot through one or more model years ties up the dealership’s money. The dealer may also be paying interest and other expenses while the RV remains unsold.

Therefore, salespeople may be given special incentives to move aging inventory.

The discount may be legitimate, but that does not automatically make the RV a smart purchase. Before proceeding, find out how long the RV has been on the lot and why it has not sold.

You should also compare the discounted price with the market value of that specific model year. Even though the RV has never been titled, it is still an older model and should be priced accordingly.

The Danger of RV Lot Rot

RVs do not necessarily remain in perfect condition while sitting unused on a dealership lot.

They may spend months or even years exposed to intense sunlight, rain, snow, freezing temperatures, and temperature changes. Meanwhile, seals can begin to deteriorate, batteries can discharge, tires can age, and moisture can find its way inside.

This deterioration is often called lot rot.

A neglected RV may also develop problems with appliances, plumbing fixtures, slideouts, generators, and other components that need regular operation or care.

And because the RV is technically new, buyers sometimes assume that all of these systems must be in excellent condition.

That can be an expensive assumption.

When an Older New RV May Be Worth Buying

An unsold previous-model-year RV is not automatically a bad choice.

If the discount is large enough and the RV is in excellent condition, it could provide good value. However, the discount must justify buying an older model, and you need to verify the RV’s condition before signing anything.

Look closely for:

  • Cracked or deteriorated exterior sealant
  • Evidence of water intrusion
  • Weathered or damaged tires
  • Weak or neglected batteries
  • Faded or damaged exterior surfaces
  • Rust or corrosion
  • Malfunctioning appliances
  • Plumbing leaks
  • Slideout or awning problems
  • Signs that rodents or insects have entered the RV

You can also learn more about how to spot good and bad new RV quality before visiting the dealership.

Most importantly, have the RV independently inspected. A discounted price is not a bargain if you immediately inherit thousands of dollars in repairs.

RV Dealer Lies #4: “Our PDI Is Just as Good as an Independent Inspection”

This is more than a misleading sales claim. In many cases, it is simply untrue.

A dealer’s pre-delivery inspection, commonly called a PDI, is not the same as an inspection performed for the buyer by a qualified independent RV inspector.

What Is an RV Pre-Delivery Inspection?

The dealership’s PDI is generally intended to prepare the RV for delivery.

Its staff may check certain systems, correct obvious problems, clean the RV, and make sure it is ready for the customer walkthrough. The thoroughness of this process can vary enormously from one dealer to another.

Some dealerships do a reasonably good job. Others perform only a limited check, and a few may do very little unless the buyer points out a problem.

The person conducting the PDI may also have limited training or experience.

And there is another important difference: The dealership is inspecting its own product.

How an Independent RV Inspection Is Different

An independent inspector works for the buyer.

A qualified inspector normally spends hours examining the RV from top to bottom. The inspection may include the roof, exterior, interior, plumbing, electrical components, appliances, life-safety equipment, and other accessible systems.

The buyer then receives a detailed report explaining the inspector’s findings.

The goal is not to prepare the RV for delivery. It is to give the buyer an independent assessment of the RV’s condition before the purchase is completed.

That information can help you decide whether to continue with the transaction, request repairs, renegotiate the price, or walk away.

This is especially important with new RVs because “new” does not always mean problem-free. RVs can leave the factory with incomplete work, damaged components, poorly installed equipment, and other defects.

My Buying an RV resource page has more information on comparing RVs, evaluating quality, and making sure problems are corrected before delivery.

What If the Dealer Refuses an Outside Inspection?

Occasionally, a dealer will refuse to allow an independent RV inspection on its property.

The salesperson may claim that the dealership’s PDI is all you need or that outside inspectors are not permitted.

If that happens, my recommendation is simple: Find another dealer.

A dealer that is confident in its RVs should not be afraid of a qualified inspector examining one before the sale. Refusing an independent inspection raises serious questions about the dealership’s priorities and what it may not want you to discover.

You are preparing to spend a substantial amount of money. You should not be pressured into accepting only the seller’s opinion about the condition of the product being sold.

Not Every RV Salesperson Is Dishonest

It is important to be fair here.

Not every RV salesperson will lie to you or intentionally provide misleading information. There are knowledgeable and ethical salespeople in the RV industry, especially those who have years of experience and understand the importance of long-term customer relationships.

A good salesperson will acknowledge when they do not know the answer to a technical question. They will help you find reliable information instead of making something up.

They will also give you time to conduct research, compare financing, and arrange an independent inspection.

However, too many dealerships have adopted high-pressure tactics associated with the car sales industry. Their focus is on completing the transaction quickly instead of building a lasting relationship with the customer.

This can be especially common at some large national RV dealership chains, where sales volume and short-term profit may be the primary goals.

So listen to the salesperson, but verify important claims independently.

How to Protect Yourself From RV Dealer Lies And Tricks

The best defense against RV dealer lies is preparation.

Do your research before walking onto the lot. Begin by deciding what type of RV fits your intended travel style, camping preferences, storage situation, and budget.

Next, research manufacturers, brands, models, and model years. My RV brand and model resources can help you narrow your search before visiting dealerships.

If you are buying a towable RV, calculate your vehicle’s real towing and payload limitations in advance.

Then arrange outside financing so you can compare the dealer’s offer with another lender. And before signing a purchase agreement, make sure you understand whether your deposit is refundable and whether the sale is contingent on an acceptable independent inspection.

Finally, slow the process down.

High-pressure RV sales tactics depend on getting you to make an emotional decision before you have time to investigate. A good RV should still be a good choice after you have researched it, reviewed the numbers, and slept on the decision.

Frequently Asked Questions About RV Dealer Lies

Can I trust an RV salesperson?

Some RV salespeople are knowledgeable and honest, but you should independently verify important claims about towing, financing, warranties, and the RV’s condition. Remember that the salesperson represents the dealership and earns money by completing the sale.

Can an RV dealer tell me whether my truck can tow a trailer?

A salesperson may offer an opinion, but you should not rely on it without checking the actual ratings for your specific vehicle. Towing capacity, payload, tongue or pin weight, passengers, cargo, and the trailer’s loaded weight must all be considered.

Is dealer financing always more expensive?

No. A dealership may sometimes offer the best loan available, especially when a manufacturer or lender is running a promotion. However, obtaining an offer from your bank or credit union gives you a reliable comparison and prevents you from having only one financing option.

Is a previous-model-year RV still considered new?

An RV may be sold as new if it has never been titled, even if it is one or more model years old. However, its age affects its market value, and extended outdoor storage may have caused deterioration.

What is RV lot rot?

RV lot rot is the deterioration that can occur while an RV sits unused on a dealer lot. Common problems include aging tires, discharged batteries, deteriorated sealant, water intrusion, corrosion, fading, pest damage, and malfunctioning equipment.

Is a dealer PDI the same as an independent RV inspection?

No. A dealership’s pre-delivery inspection is performed by or for the seller to prepare the RV for delivery. An independent RV inspection is performed for the buyer and is intended to provide an impartial evaluation of the RV’s condition.

Should I buy from a dealer that refuses an independent inspection?

I would not recommend it. Refusing to allow a qualified independent inspection is a major warning sign. There are other dealerships that will respect your right to verify the RV’s condition before completing the purchase.

Conclusion

Buying the right RV can lead to years of enjoyable travel. But buying the wrong one can leave you with towing problems, excessive debt, unexpected repairs, and a major financial loss.

So do not allow an RV salesperson to make important decisions for you.

Verify your towing numbers, arrange financing in advance, carefully evaluate older inventory, and insist on an independent RV inspection before you buy.

Most of all, be willing to walk away.

The goal is not merely to buy an RV. The goal is to buy the right RV, at the right price, and in the right condition so you can enjoy safe and happy travels for years to come.

What Size Generator Do I Need for My RV?

Choosing the right RV generator can be confusing. So it’s easy to ask – “What size generator do I need for my RV?”

Well, you have to consider watts, amps, battery charging, air conditioners, and whether your RV has 30-amp or 50-amp service.

But the decision becomes much easier when you focus on one simple question: What do you actually want the generator to power?

Some RV owners only need to recharge their batteries while boondocking. Others want to run an air conditioner or enjoy almost the same experience they have on campground shore power.

Each goal calls for a different size. So let’s determine what size generator you need for your RV.

What size generator do I need for my RV? - A video on the subject.

How an RV Gets Electrical Power

Most RVs use both 12-volt direct current, usually called DC power, and 120-volt alternating current, usually called AC power.

There are 2 kinds of RV power.

Your RV house batteries supply 12-volt DC power. Depending on the RV and its equipment, that power can operate lights, control boards, the water pump, vent fans, the furnace blower, and other important components.

12 volt items needing power in an RV

However, some appliances may use propane while relying on 12-volt electricity for their controls. And a 12-volt compressor refrigerator can draw much more battery power than a propane absorption refrigerator, so every RV is a little different.

The problem with battery power is that once electricity leaves the batteries, it eventually has to be replaced. In other words, you need a way to recharge your RV battery bank.

Shore Power, Solar Power, and Generators

One way to recharge the batteries is to connect the RV to shore power at a campground or RV park.

Your RV’s converter then changes some of that 120-volt AC power into 12-volt DC power for the RV and its batteries.

An RV converter changes 120 volt power to 12 volt power

If you would like a clearer explanation of that process, read my article on the difference between an RV converter and inverter.

Solar panels are another popular option. They can recharge the batteries when sufficient sunlight is available, and they are especially useful for RVers who camp off-grid regularly.

However, solar production varies with the weather, the season, shade, and the size of the system. So many boondockers still carry a generator as either their primary charging source or a backup.

A generator can also directly supply 120-volt AC power. That means it can operate wall receptacles, microwave ovens, air conditioners, and other AC equipment within its limits.

120 volt items needing power in an RV

An inverter and sufficiently large battery bank can also power AC equipment. But that requires a properly designed system with enough battery capacity, inverter capacity, wiring, and a reliable way to replace the energy being consumed.

What Determines the Right RV Generator Size?

The best generator size depends mainly on the electrical loads you want to operate at the same time.

And here is the general rule to remember: The more equipment you want to run simultaneously, the larger the generator must be. A larger generator will usually be heavier, more expensive, and more fuel-hungry too.

So buying the biggest portable generator you can find is not always the best answer. The goal is to buy enough capacity for the way you camp without carrying unnecessary weight or spending more than needed.

Understand Running Watts and Starting Watts

Before comparing generator sizes, it is important to understand the difference between running watts and starting watts.

Running watts describe the power a generator can supply continuously. Starting watts, sometimes called surge or peak watts, describe the extra power it can supply briefly when a motor-driven appliance starts.

An RV air conditioner is the most common example. It requires a surge of power when its compressor starts and then uses less power while running.

For that reason, never choose a generator based only on the large wattage number printed prominently on the box. Check both its continuous running-watt rating and its starting-watt rating.

You should also leave yourself a reasonable safety margin. Operating a generator at or near its maximum output for long periods is not an ideal plan, especially in hot weather or at higher elevations where some engines produce less power.

How Much Power Does a 30-Amp RV Have?

A 30-amp RV uses one 120-volt line of electrical power. To estimate its maximum wattage, multiply volts by amps:

120 volts × 30 amps = 3,600 watts

So a 30-amp RV can theoretically use up to 3,600 watts at one time when connected to a full 30-amp shore-power source.

What size generator do I need for my RV? - 30 amp RVs have a limit of 3600 watts of usable power

However, that does not mean you always use 3,600 watts. Many RV owners operate far below that level most of the time.

It also does not mean that a generator advertised with 3,600 peak watts can continuously replace a 30-amp pedestal. Its continuous rating must be high enough for the loads you plan to run.

How Much Power Does a 50-Amp RV Have?

A 50-amp RV has two separate 120-volt power lines. Each line can provide as much as 50 amps.

That gives the RV a theoretical total capacity of:

120 volts × 50 amps × 2 lines = 12,000 watts

What size generator do I need for my RV? - 50 amp RVs have a limit of 12,000 watts of usable power

That is much more electrical capacity than a 30-amp RV provides. It explains why large fifth wheels and motorhomes can have multiple air conditioners, residential refrigerators, electric water heaters, fireplaces, washers, dryers, and other high-demand equipment.

But most owners do not use the full 12,000 watts continuously. Therefore, owning a 50-amp RV does not automatically mean that you need a 12,000-watt generator.

Generator Size for Charging RV Batteries

Suppose you only want a generator to recharge your RV house batteries while camping without hookups. You plan to operate your normal 12-volt equipment from the batteries and do not intend to run an air conditioner or several large AC appliances.

In that situation, a 2,000-watt inverter generator is usually a very practical choice. It provides ample capacity for most RV converter-chargers while remaining relatively compact, portable, and fuel-efficient.

Your actual charging time will depend on the battery type, battery-bank capacity, state of charge, and output of your converter or battery charger. A larger generator does not necessarily charge the batteries faster if the charging equipment cannot use the extra power.

For many boondockers, running a small generator for a while in the morning and again later in the day can replace much of the power they have used. However, the exact schedule will vary, especially if the RV has a large battery bank or a power-hungry 12-volt refrigerator.

To learn more about choosing the battery bank itself, see my guide to the best RV batteries for the house and chassis.

Generator Size for One RV Air Conditioner

Now suppose you want to recharge the batteries and have the ability to run one RV air conditioner when the weather becomes hot.

For reliable operation in a wide range of conditions, a generator in the 3,000-to-3,600-watt range is usually the better choice. This gives you more room for the air conditioner’s starting surge and for smaller electrical loads that may operate at the same time.

The exact requirement depends on the air conditioner’s BTU rating, efficiency, age, and starting characteristics. It also depends on whether another major load—such as the microwave, electric water heater, or converter—is running.

Some RV owners operate one air conditioner from a smaller 2,000-watt generator, especially after installing an approved soft-start device. A soft start reduces the compressor’s startup demand, but it does not reduce the air conditioner’s normal running consumption nearly as dramatically.

So you still need to compare the generator’s ratings with the air-conditioner manufacturer’s electrical specifications. And before adding a soft start, check whether the modification could affect the appliance warranty.

Manage Other Loads While the Air Conditioner Runs

Even with a 3,000-to-3,600-watt generator, you may need to manage your electrical use.

For example, avoid using the microwave at the same time as the air conditioner if their combined load approaches the generator’s continuous capacity. You can also switch the refrigerator and water heater to propane, if they are designed for it, to reduce AC demand.

This kind of load management is normal in a 30-amp RV, even when you are connected to shore power.

Generator Size for a 30-Amp RV

If you want to come reasonably close to replacing a 30-amp campground connection, look for a generator that can provide approximately 3,600 continuous watts at the correct 120-volt output.

That does not guarantee that every appliance can start at the same moment. But with sensible load management, it can power most of what a typical 30-amp RV is designed to operate.

Remember to confirm the continuous rating, receptacle type, and adapter arrangement before buying. A generator’s peak rating alone does not tell you how much power it can deliver continuously to the RV.

Generator Size for a 50-Amp RV

A 50-amp RV presents a different challenge because its shore-power service can supply as much as 12,000 watts. Fortunately, most owners do not need to duplicate all of that capacity while camping away from hookups.

If your only goal is battery charging, the same 2,000-watt inverter generator that works for a smaller RV may be enough. If you want to run one air conditioner, a 3,000-to-3,600-watt model may still meet your needs.

However, if you want to run multiple air conditioners and use most of the RV much as you would on shore power, a built-in generator around 8,000 watts is common in larger motorhomes. That capacity can support many normal loads, although you may still need to avoid operating every high-demand appliance simultaneously.

Large built-in generators are heavy and expensive, but the RV manufacturer accounts for their installation, fuel supply, exhaust system, ventilation, and controls. Cummins Onan is one of the best-known manufacturers in this category, and you can learn more in my article about Cummins Onan RV generators.

A Quick RV Generator Size Guide

Here is a simple way to narrow down your choices:

  • Battery charging and light AC use: A 2,000-watt inverter generator is often sufficient.
  • Battery charging plus one RV air conditioner: Consider roughly 3,000 to 3,600 watts, depending on the air conditioner and other loads.
  • Most of the capability of a 30-amp connection: Look for about 3,600 continuous watts and manage simultaneous loads.
  • Multiple air conditioners and extensive use in a large 50-amp RV: A built-in generator around 8,000 watts is a common solution.
  • The full theoretical capacity of 50-amp shore power: Up to 12,000 watts, although very few RVers need to duplicate it.

These figures are useful starting points, but your appliances and camping habits should make the final decision.

Why an Inverter Generator Is Usually Best for RV Use

If you are buying a portable generator for camping, I strongly recommend choosing an inverter generator.

Open-frame construction generators are designed mainly for jobsites and emergency work. They are often much louder, which nearby campers will not appreciate.

Construction style generators are not good choice for most RVs

Inverter generators are generally quieter and can adjust engine speed according to demand. They also provide stable power that is well suited to the electronic equipment found in modern RVs.

Of course, no portable generator is silent. Always obey campground generator-hour and noise rules, and be considerate of everyone around you.

For a more detailed comparison, see my guide to the pros and cons of RV inverter generators.

Important Generator Safety Reminders

Never operate a portable generator inside an RV, basement compartment, truck bed with a cover, garage, or other enclosed or partly enclosed area. Generator exhaust contains carbon monoxide, which can cause severe injury or death.

Place the generator outdoors and well away from doors, windows, vents, and neighboring RVs, following the generator manufacturer’s instructions. Also make sure your RV has working carbon-monoxide detectors.

Use the correct heavy-duty cord and properly rated adapters for the connection. And never improvise a connection that could energize exposed contacts or backfeed an electrical system.

Finally, protect the generator from rain and weather without enclosing it or restricting the airflow it needs for cooling and safe exhaust dispersal.

You can find more practical information about RV electricity, generators, air conditioning, and other components on my RV Systems and Equipment page.

Frequently Asked Questions About RV Generator Size

Will a 2,000-watt generator run an RV air conditioner?

Sometimes it can, especially with an efficient air conditioner and a properly installed soft start. However, the available margin may be small, and other electrical loads may have to be turned off.

For more dependable operation, a generator in the 3,000-to-3,600-watt range is usually a better choice for running one RV air conditioner.

Is a 3,500-watt generator enough for a 30-amp RV?

It is enough for many normal uses, but check whether 3,500 watts is the generator’s continuous or peak rating. You may still need to manage large loads, especially when the air conditioner, microwave, and electric water heater could overlap.

Can I use a small generator with a 50-amp RV?

Yes. The RV’s 50-amp rating describes the maximum power it can accept, not the minimum power it requires.

With the correct connection and careful load management, a small generator can charge the batteries or operate selected equipment in a 50-amp RV.

Do I need an 8,000-watt generator for every 50-amp RV?

No. An 8,000-watt generator makes sense when you want to operate multiple air conditioners and many of the conveniences of a large RV while away from shore power.

If you only need battery charging or one air conditioner, a much smaller generator may be all you need.

Does a bigger generator charge RV batteries faster?

Not necessarily. Charging speed is limited by the converter or charger, battery chemistry, battery temperature, and the battery’s ability to accept current.

Once the generator can comfortably supply the charger, additional generator capacity may not shorten charging time.

Should I buy a portable or built-in RV generator?

A portable inverter generator often fits towable RVs and occasional backup use. It is usually less expensive and can be removed when not needed.

A built-in generator is more convenient for larger motorhomes and frequent generator use. However, it adds cost, weight, maintenance requirements, and fuel consumption.

Conclusion

So, what size generator do you need for your RV? The answer depends much more on what you want to operate than on the size or electrical rating of the RV itself.

For battery charging, a 2,000-watt inverter generator is often a very practical choice. To run one air conditioner more reliably, move into the 3,000-to-3,600-watt range.

And if you have a large 50-amp RV and want to run multiple air conditioners along with most of your normal appliances, a built-in generator around 8,000 watts may be appropriate.

Before buying, list the appliances you expect to use at the same time. Then compare their running and starting requirements with the generator’s continuous and surge ratings, while leaving a reasonable safety margin.

That approach will help you choose an RV generator that does what you need without paying for—or carrying—far more generator than you will actually use.

Have safe and happy travels, my friends!

Lithium RV Batteries: The Pros, The Cons, And The Myths

Lithium RV batteries have become one of the most talked-about upgrades in the RV industry. However, the amount of conflicting information online has left many RV owners unsure about what to believe.

On one side, you have people who say every RVer should immediately replace their lead-acid batteries with lithium. But on the other side, some claim that lithium batteries are dangerous and could suddenly catch fire or explode inside an RV.

As usual, the truth is somewhere between those extremes.

Lithium RV batteries offer some very impressive advantages, especially for boondockers and RVers with solar power. However, they cost more initially, require the right supporting equipment, and may not provide enough benefit for someone who spends almost every night connected to shore power.

If you are still comparing your options, my guide to the three main RV house battery choices explains the differences between flooded lead-acid, AGM, and lithium batteries.

So let’s look at the pros and cons of lithium RV batteries, clear up some common myths, and determine whether they make sense for your style of RV travel.

Lithium RV batteries

What Kind of Lithium Batteries Are Used in RVs?

When RVers talk about lithium batteries, they are usually referring to lithium iron phosphate batteries, commonly abbreviated as LiFePO4 or LFP.

That distinction is important because not all lithium battery chemistries are the same. The lithium-ion batteries used in some consumer electronics and electric vehicles may have different performance and safety characteristics.

LiFePO4 batteries are popular in RVs because the chemistry is relatively stable, delivers a long cycle life, and works well for deep-cycle applications. Quality RV lithium batteries also include a battery management system, or BMS, that monitors and protects the battery.

A BMS can provide protection against excessive voltage, low voltage, overcurrent, short circuits, and unsafe temperatures. However, it does not replace proper wiring, fusing, installation, or charging equipment.

The Advantages of Lithium RV Batteries

There are many reasons why RV owners are upgrading from flooded lead-acid or AGM batteries to LiFePO4 batteries.

Lithium Batteries Weigh Much Less

One of the first benefits you will notice is the weight difference.

A typical 100-amp-hour flooded lead-acid battery may weigh 60 to 70 pounds. Meanwhile, a comparable 100-amp-hour LiFePO4 battery commonly weighs between 25 and 35 pounds.

For example, the current Battle Born 100Ah battery weighs about 31 pounds. So replacing two heavy lead-acid batteries with lithium could remove 60 pounds or more from your RV.

That can be a meaningful benefit in a smaller travel trailer or motorhome with limited cargo carrying capacity. And because lithium provides more usable energy per rated amp-hour, you may not need as many batteries to obtain the power you need.

More of the Rated Capacity Is Usable

Lead-acid batteries generally last longer when they are not repeatedly discharged below approximately 50% state of charge.

So a 100-amp-hour flooded lead-acid battery is often treated as providing around 50 amp-hours of regularly usable capacity. Deeper discharges are possible, but doing so repeatedly can shorten battery life considerably.

Many LiFePO4 batteries allow 80% to 100% of their rated capacity to be used. That means a 100-amp-hour lithium battery may provide nearly twice the practical usable energy of a similarly rated lead-acid battery.

However, that does not mean you should intentionally drain a lithium battery completely every day. Depth of discharge still affects cycle life, and leaving any battery deeply discharged can eventually damage it.

Lithium Batteries Can Recharge Faster

Lithium batteries can usually accept a higher charging current than lead-acid batteries.

A typical 100Ah lead-acid battery may accept around 20 to 30 amps during bulk charging, while some 100Ah LiFePO4 batteries can accept 50 amps or more. The actual limit depends on the battery and its BMS.

This faster charge acceptance can reduce generator run time and help RVers make better use of limited solar-producing hours.

However, lithium batteries will only charge faster if the converter, solar controller, alternator-charging system, cables, and other equipment can safely supply the additional current.

They Maintain Voltage Under Load

Lead-acid battery voltage gradually drops as the battery discharges. And under a heavy load, that voltage can sag enough to cause an inverter or other appliance to shut down.

Lithium batteries maintain a much flatter voltage throughout most of their discharge cycle. So lights, pumps, inverters, and other 12-volt equipment can operate more consistently.

This makes LiFePO4 RV batteries particularly useful when powering appliances through an inverter.

Very Little Routine Maintenance Is Required

Flooded lead-acid batteries require regular inspection. Owners must monitor electrolyte levels, add distilled water when needed, clean corrosion from the terminals, and make sure the battery compartment remains ventilated.

LiFePO4 batteries do not require watering or periodic equalization. And terminal corrosion is generally much less of a problem.

However, maintenance-free does not mean inspection-free. Battery cables, connections, fuses, mounting hardware, and the battery compartment should still be checked periodically.

No Off-Gassing During Normal Operation

Flooded lead-acid batteries can release hydrogen and oxygen while charging. Hydrogen is flammable, so these batteries must be installed in a properly ventilated compartment away from ignition sources.

LiFePO4 batteries do not normally release hydrogen gas while charging. As a result, many models can be installed inside an RV when the battery manufacturer permits it.

But that does not mean a lithium battery can be placed just anywhere. It must be securely mounted, protected from excessive heat, moisture, physical damage, and short circuits, and installed according to the manufacturer’s instructions.

Lithium Batteries Usually Last Longer

Quality LiFePO4 batteries are commonly rated for approximately 3,000 to 5,000 cycles, although the actual number depends on the battery, depth of discharge, temperature, charging practices, and how the manufacturer defines the end of its useful life.

By comparison, many conventional lead-acid batteries deliver several hundred cycles, although premium lead-acid designs can do better when properly maintained.

So it is reasonable to expect a quality lithium RV battery to last much longer than a typical flooded lead-acid battery. However, saying every lithium battery will last exactly ten times longer is too broad because battery quality and usage vary substantially.

Excellent for Solar and Partial Charging

Solar power is naturally inconsistent. Clouds, shade, weather, and the position of the sun cause charging output to rise and fall throughout the day.

LiFePO4 batteries handle partial-state-of-charge operation much better than most lead-acid batteries. Lead-acid batteries should regularly return to a full charge because remaining partially discharged can promote sulfation and reduce capacity.

That makes lithium batteries a very good match for RV solar systems, particularly when the battery bank may receive an incomplete charge on cloudy days.

The Disadvantages of Lithium RV Batteries

Lithium batteries have many advantages, but they are not the perfect solution for every RVer.

The Initial Cost Is Higher

Price continues to be the largest disadvantage.

Depending on capacity, features, certifications, warranty coverage, and brand, a 100Ah LiFePO4 battery can cost anywhere from a few hundred dollars to nearly $1,000. Heated batteries and batteries with advanced monitoring generally cost more.

For comparison, Battle Born currently lists its standard 100Ah 12-volt battery at $799 during a promotion, with a regular listed price of $949. Its published specifications include a 31-pound weight, 100% usable depth of discharge, and a rated cycle life of 3,000 to 5,000 cycles. Battle Born 100Ah battery specifications

Battleborn lithium RV batteries

However, price alone does not determine quality. You should also compare the BMS, continuous-current rating, low-temperature protection, certifications, warranty, technical support, and the reputation of the seller.

A Lithium Conversion May Require Other Upgrades

Changing from lead-acid to lithium is not always as simple as replacing one battery with another.

LiFePO4 batteries require a compatible charging profile. An older RV converter may charge the battery only partially, or it may use charging and equalization settings that are inappropriate for lithium.

If these two devices are confusing, I also explain the difference between an RV converter and inverter and the job each one performs.

Your solar charge controller must also have the correct lithium settings. And if the RV charges the house batteries from the engine alternator, a DC-to-DC charger may be needed to control the current and protect both the alternator and battery bank.

Depending on your system, you may also need new battery cables, properly sized fuses, busbars, a disconnect switch, or a shunt-based battery monitor.

So before buying lithium batteries, consider the cost of the complete conversion rather than looking only at the battery price.

Cold-Weather Charging Requires Special Attention

LiFePO4 batteries can usually discharge and provide power below freezing. However, charging them when the battery cells are too cold can cause permanent internal damage.

The exact temperature limit varies by manufacturer. Battle Born currently advises against charging below approximately 25 degrees Fahrenheit unless the battery has internal heating, while some Victron batteries require a cell temperature above 41 degrees.

A quality BMS should prevent charging when the cells are outside the manufacturer’s safe temperature range. However, not every inexpensive battery provides reliable low-temperature protection.

RVers who camp in cold weather can install the battery in a protected interior compartment or choose a heated lithium battery. Battle Born provides additional guidance about LiFePO4 temperature limits.

A BMS Can Disconnect the Battery

A battery management system is an important safety feature, but owners need to understand how it works.

If voltage, temperature, or current moves outside the permitted range, the BMS may disconnect the battery. That protects the cells, but it can also cause the RV’s 12-volt power to shut off without much warning.

A Battleborn Battery Management System

This is especially important when operating a high-powered inverter. The total continuous and surge current must stay within the limits of the batteries and their BMS units.

State of Charge Is Harder to Estimate by Voltage

The flat voltage curve that helps lithium batteries operate appliances consistently also makes their state of charge difficult to estimate with a basic voltage display.

A lithium battery can remain near its normal voltage through much of the discharge cycle and then drop quickly near the end.

So a shunt-based battery monitor is strongly recommended. It measures current entering and leaving the battery bank and provides a much more useful estimate of the remaining capacity.

Common Lithium RV Battery Myths

Now let’s clear up some of the misinformation surrounding lithium RV batteries.

Myth 1: Lithium RV Batteries Commonly Explode

Any battery stores a substantial amount of energy, and any improperly manufactured, damaged, overcharged, short-circuited, or incorrectly installed battery can fail.

However, LiFePO4 chemistry is more thermally and chemically stable than several other lithium-ion chemistries. Quality batteries add a BMS and other protective features to reduce the risk further.

Flooded lead-acid batteries have their own hazards. They contain corrosive acid and can release flammable hydrogen during charging, which is why proper ventilation is essential.

So the correct conclusion is not that one type of battery has no risk. Instead, choose a battery from a reputable manufacturer, look for appropriate independent testing and certifications, and make sure the entire system is correctly installed and protected.

Myth 2: Lithium Batteries Cannot Be Used in Cold Weather

Lithium batteries can usually discharge and power an RV below freezing.

The main restriction involves charging. If the internal cells are below the manufacturer’s minimum charging temperature, the BMS should stop charging until the battery warms up.

A heated lithium battery or temperature-controlled interior installation can solve that problem for many cold-weather RVers.

Myth 3: Lithium Batteries Are Always Too Expensive

Lithium batteries cost more initially, but the purchase price is only one part of the calculation.

Their longer cycle life, greater usable capacity, reduced weight, faster charging, and lack of routine maintenance can make them economical over many years of frequent use.

However, an occasional camper may never cycle the batteries often enough to recover the higher initial cost. So lithium is not automatically the least expensive answer for everyone.

Myth 4: Every RVer Needs Lithium Batteries

Lithium has become so popular that some RV owners feel as though their electrical system is outdated without it.

But the right battery depends on how you camp.

If you spend most nights connected to shore power and use the batteries mainly for lights, the water pump, and brief overnight stops, a quality lead-acid or AGM battery bank may still serve you very well.

Who Benefits Most From Lithium RV Batteries?

Lithium batteries make the most sense for RVers who regularly rely on stored electrical power.

Boondockers and Dry Campers

Boondockers can benefit from the greater usable capacity, faster generator charging, and ability to handle partial solar charging.

Some RVers combine solar power with an inverter generator while boondocking so they can recharge their battery bank even when sunlight is limited.

And because lithium batteries weigh less, owners can install a larger usable battery bank without consuming as much cargo capacity.

RVers With Large Solar Systems

Solar and lithium work very well together when the charge controller is properly configured.

Lithium batteries can accept strong solar output quickly, and they tolerate the changing charging conditions caused by clouds and shade better than conventional lead-acid batteries.

RVers Who Use Large Inverters

If you want to power a microwave, coffee maker, residential refrigerator, or other significant load from an inverter, lithium batteries can provide more stable voltage and higher current.

Battery capacity becomes especially important when powering an RV refrigerator off-grid because compressor-style refrigerators require a dependable source of electricity.

However, the battery bank, BMS, inverter, wiring, and fuses must all be correctly sized for the load.

Owners Concerned About Weight

Lithium can be especially helpful in travel trailers, truck campers, camper vans, and smaller motorhomes with limited cargo capacity.

Reducing battery weight does not increase the RV’s official cargo carrying capacity, but it leaves more of that capacity available for other items.

Who May Not Need Lithium Batteries?

Lithium may not be necessary if you camp almost exclusively in RV parks with full hookups.

In that situation, the converter supplies most of your 12-volt power while also maintaining the batteries. So you may rarely take advantage of lithium’s deeper usable capacity or rapid charging.

Lead-acid can also remain a practical choice for someone who camps only a few weekends each year and has a limited upgrade budget.

The important point is to buy the battery system that fits your actual needs, not the system that happens to be receiving the most attention online.

How to Choose the Best Lithium Battery for Your RV

Do not judge a lithium battery by price and advertised amp-hours alone.

Look for a dependable battery management system with protection against high and low voltage, overcurrent, short circuits, and unsafe temperatures. Also verify the continuous-current rating, especially if you plan to operate an inverter.

Check for relevant independent testing and certifications, along with clear installation documentation and accessible technical support. A long warranty has little value if the company is difficult to reach or may not be around when you need help.

You should also confirm whether the battery can be connected in series or parallel, how many batteries the manufacturer allows in a bank, and whether batteries of different ages or capacities can be combined.

And if you camp in freezing weather, choose a battery with dependable low-temperature cutoff protection or internal heating.

Is Battle Born a Good RV Lithium Battery?

Battle Born is one premium brand worth considering. I am not affiliated with the company, and I am not being paid or compensated to recommend it.

The company has a long-standing presence in the RV community, provides detailed technical documentation, and builds its 100Ah batteries with an internal BMS. Its batteries also carry published cycle-life, temperature, current, and charging specifications.

However, Battle Born is not the only acceptable choice. Other manufacturers offer quality LiFePO4 RV batteries, so compare specifications, testing, warranty support, and total system cost before making a decision.

Planning an RV Lithium Battery Upgrade

Before ordering batteries, determine how much electricity you actually use each day.

Before making major changes, it helps to spend some time understanding your RV’s electrical system and how its batteries, converter, inverter, solar equipment, and generator work together.

List your 12-volt appliances and anything you intend to power through an inverter. Then estimate daily amp-hour consumption and build a battery bank with enough reserve capacity.

Next, verify the following parts of your RV electrical system:

  • Converter or inverter-charger
  • Solar charge controller
  • Alternator-charging circuit
  • Battery cables and connections
  • Main battery fuse
  • Disconnect switch
  • Battery monitor
  • Battery mounting location

If you are uncertain about any part of the conversion, consult a qualified RV electrical technician. Lithium batteries can deliver very high current, so improper cable sizing or circuit protection can create a serious hazard.

Frequently Asked Questions About Lithium RV Batteries

Are lithium RV batteries safe?

Quality LiFePO4 batteries are generally safe when properly manufactured, installed, charged, and protected.

Choose a reputable product with an effective BMS, use correctly sized cables and fuses, and follow the manufacturer’s installation requirements.

Can I replace my lead-acid RV battery with lithium?

Possibly, but first verify that the converter, solar controller, alternator-charging system, battery monitor, cables, and fuses are compatible.

Some newer RVs already have a lithium charging mode, while older RVs may require several upgrades.

Can lithium RV batteries be used below freezing?

Most can continue discharging below freezing, although available capacity may decrease.

However, they should not be charged below the manufacturer’s minimum temperature unless they have an approved internal heating system.

Do lithium RV batteries need ventilation?

LiFePO4 batteries do not release hydrogen during normal charging like flooded lead-acid batteries do.

Many can therefore be installed inside an RV, but only in a secure location permitted by the manufacturer and protected from heat, moisture, physical damage, and short circuits.

How long do lithium RV batteries last?

Quality LiFePO4 batteries are often rated for 3,000 to 5,000 cycles, and some manufacturers advertise even more.

Actual life depends on depth of discharge, temperature, charging practices, battery quality, storage conditions, and usage.

Can I mix lithium and lead-acid batteries?

Lithium and lead-acid batteries should not be connected directly together as one house battery bank because their charging requirements and voltage characteristics are different.

They may be used in separate, electrically isolated battery systems when the charging and control equipment is specifically designed for that arrangement.

Are lithium batteries worth it for occasional campers?

They may not be.

If you camp infrequently and normally have shore power, a well-maintained lead-acid or AGM bank could provide everything you need for much less initial expense.

Conclusion: Do You Really Need Lithium RV Batteries?

Lithium RV batteries offer more usable capacity, less weight, faster charging, stable voltage, minimal maintenance, and a much longer potential service life than conventional flooded lead-acid batteries.

Those advantages make LiFePO4 batteries especially attractive for boondockers, solar users, inverter users, and RVers who depend heavily on battery power.

However, lithium batteries cost more initially and may require upgrades to the converter, solar controller, alternator-charging system, cables, fuses, and monitoring equipment.

So lithium is not automatically the best choice for every RV owner.

If you spend most of your time in campgrounds connected to shore power, a quality lead-acid or AGM battery bank may continue to serve you very well. But if you regularly camp off-grid and want more usable energy with less weight and faster charging, lithium batteries deserve serious consideration.

The goal is not to buy lithium because everyone else is doing it. The goal is to choose the battery system that safely and reliably supports the way you actually use your RV.